Sunday, January 9, 2011

community service announcement - Gardasil

When Mary Harney announced that the new HPV vaccination wouldn't be free, there was outcry about safeguarding our daughters and price of life and so on, and lots of people blogged about how evil and careless she was. At the same time I was reading articles about its safety and warnings about it, and I thought, well, methinks it's best we're not having it forced on our pre teen children, thank you.

I just saw this from Dr Mercola on facebook, and thought I'd spread the word.

Why India Has Stopped Using Gardasil

11 comments:

Leslie Carol Botha said...

Your comment regarding Gardasil came in on Google Alerts. If your readers are looking for more information about the HPV vaccines please direct them to http://truthaboutgardasil.org and http://sanevax.org. There are over 21,000 girls who have had adverse reactions to Gardasil/Cervarix. 89 girls have died. These are potentially very dangerous vaccines. Pregnant women should not be getting the vaccine at. There was even a report of a 40 day old infant who breastfed after his/her mother had the vaccine and who suffered a severe reaction.

Thank you for letting me share this information.


Leslie C. Botha
Vice-President Public Relations
SANEVax, Inc.

itchybollix said...

proof again that Ray Darcy is a tosser

Jo said...

Aw, I don't know. I don't think he is, I think he's just conservative. And in Ireland we think science must be good, doctors must be right, so do what they tell you and save everyone's lives. We don't think about things like what pharmaceutical companies' interests are.

Janine Ashbless said...

So instead you put your faith in a guy with an ENORMOUS financial stake in selling unproved pills and supplements and appearing on talkshows trying to persuade everyone never to get vaccinated? There's logic for you.

Seriously, Jo, I'm disappointed in you. Jesus wept. I thought this argument went out with the eradication of smallpox (by science, btw, not homeopathy).

And I got my flu jab this year, like every year, because I have asthma and a bout of flu would kill me.

Janine Ashbless said...

And I'm sorry. I shouldn't get snarky on other people's blogs. Especially those of friends. It just winds me up so much...

Jo said...

Calm youself down, Janine, I'm not using this post to argue against vaccination, I don't have the confidence to do that properly.

I'm pointing out that this particular vaccine that there were great concerns about from the start, has endangered and killed women.

Just because we're sold something in drug form doesn't mean it's safe or necessary.

Jo said...

It's not just Mercola talking about Gardasil, there's a lot of information about it to be read:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Irc8CHK0c&feature=player_embedded

http://mothering.com/health/politics-gardasil

http://mothering.com/news-bulletins-july-2006

Jo said...

Plus, I hope you didn't assume from my comment that I reject the good of science or medicine. Obviously that would be ridiculous. However, to assume that everything a pharmaceutical company tells us is in our best interests would also be ridiculous, and to assume that doctors don't have a financial interest in promoting what those companies suggest would be naive.


No, homeopathy didn't stop smallpox. Yes, it's good there is no more smallpox. There are open questions as to what did stop it though, though. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/obomsawin2.html

Janine Ashbless said...

There have been well over 40 million doses of Gardasil put into use - and, it is claimed by detractors, 89 deaths. If you inject 40 million people with anything - distilled water say - you will get, statistically, some of those people dropping dead in the few weeks afterwards. This does NOT establish a CAUSAL connection. Saying "Oh, this baby was fine, and then his mother had the injection, and then the baby died, but we have no autopsy and no medically established cause of death, but shit man, it must have been the innoculation because babies never die of anything else, do they?" is just a total failure of rational thought.

You have to establish a causal connection, not just go "Oooh scary!" And IF you can do that, THEN you have to establish that the risk outweighs the benefit. Yes, some people react badly to medicine - any medicine. Aspirin kills some people, you know.

I'm not a fan of big pharma companies, and I know they are profit-driven. But they are at least under scrutiny by informed professionals (as they should be) ... rather than, say, a bunch of people passing on rumour and gossip on the internet.

As far as I can tell (from your links too), most of the opposition to innoculating girls against cervical cancer seems to be based on (a) squeamishness about the thought that one's lovely young daughter MAY HAVE SEX ONE DAY, or (b) moral opposition to anything making sex safer, on the grounds that it will encourage shagging: much the same as the opposition to giving teenagers contraception. It's head-in-the-sand conservatism. Not evidence- or fact-based science.

Jo said...

I just wish I had your confidence and conviction. Then I'd go for it all and worry no more.

Danielle said...

damn..so much cooked up ostrogen inhere i almost grew boobs by reading the coments,,,,,^^

cut off from the su´bject itslef i love how fierce and firey janine steps in for her opinion...which i share partly as well...